The Chincoteague Planning Commission met on February 26, 2008 to
conduct a Public Hearing: on proposed parking regulations, and to consider the
following items: a review of complimentary therapy (old business), moving billboards and the Planning Director's update.
Members Attending: Chairman Ray Rosenberger, Bob Behr, Ellen Richardson, Chuck Ward, Mollie Cherrix, Tripp Muth
Member(s) Absent: Jane Wolffe
Staff Attending: Jared Anderson, Town Planner and Commission Secretary; and Robert Ritter, Town Manager
Public Attendance: Eleven public citizens, including Mayor Tarr
The meeting agenda and backup material may be found at:
Agenda & Backup Materials
Audio of the meeting will be located at:
Recording of the Meeting
Chairman Rosenberger convened the meeting at 7:00 p.m in Council Chambers. Public Participation. One person in the audience requested to speak on the parking issue before the Commission. The Chairman suggested that the gentleman speak when that agenda item was discussed later. Agenda Adoption. Chairman Rosenberger asked the Commission members if the agenda, as proposed, should be accepted. Mr. Ward moved that the agenda be adopted; Ms. Richardson seconded, and all approved.
New Commission Member
The Chairman welcomed Mr. Tripp Muth, a newly appointed Commission member, to the group.
Adoption of February 26, 2008, Minutes
Mr. Ward asked Mr. Anderson if the minutes could be copied two-sided to save money. Mr. Anderson agreed that he would provide two-sided copies of the minutes in the future. Mr. Behr made a motion to accept the minutes. Ms. Cherrix seconded the motion and the Minutes were unanimously accepted.
Public Hearing: Parking Recommendations to Zoning Ordinance
Mr. Anderson summarized the changes to the parking recommendations of 2005/2006 as follows:
• Combining definitions
• defining the gray area between roads and parking lots
• accommodating best management practices
• allowing compact car parking spaces
• allowing for green parking areas
• recognizing transient occupancy
Chairman Rosenberger asked the assembled public for comment. Mr. Freddie Obrecht, representing Sunset Bay, asked to speak. Mr. Obrecht expressed concern about the number of parking spaces required for the Sunset Bay development. He believed the number is excessive. He reiterated that, for each unit, the code requires 1.2 spaces per bedroom. Additionally, if there is a fractional parking requirement, e.g., a two bedroom unit would require 2.4 parking spaces, the total number (2.4 in this case) is rounded up for each unit (3 in this case). Each boat slip also requires one additional parking space.
As an example, current ordinance guidance would require 4 spaces for every two bedroom unit that also owns a boat slip. Mr. Obrecht made the point that boat trailers are not permitted to park on the property. He stated there are currently 265 spaces on the property. On this past Easter weekend there were approximately 15 occupied spaces. He concluded by stating the current requirement is unrealistic, and that he would like to make the existing property more attractive by incorporating more green
areas.
Ms. Shawn Jennings also asked to speak before the Commission. She agreed with Mr. Obrecht that we need to make our parking areas more attractive, and that the chances that the Sunset Bay parking lot would ever be “full” are “slim.” That said, she expressed concern that single family homeowners would have to abide by a more stringent set of rules than large developers. She was especially concerned that developments with 10 or more units would have more lenient parking requirements than smaller (or single family) units. She concluded by saying that she was in favor of one set of parking
requirements for everyone.
At this point Mayor Tarr spoke, indicating that he has looked at other jurisdictions and that one parking space per bedroom is the norm. He stated that marina parking was usually not addressed, but the town ordinance requirement of one space per boat slip seems like overkill for a private marina. He stated that if a slip is deeded to a unit, then additional parking should not be required. Conversely, if slips are rented or sold, then a parking space should be required.
Mr. Ward reiterated that Sunset Bay currently has 265 parking spaces. Chairman Rosenberger then asked Mr. Obrecht how many of the units had sold and how many were rentals. Mr. Obrecht replied that 40 of 65 units have sold, and probably 40% are rentals. Mr. Obrecht clarified that he is not contesting the requirement of 1.2 spaces per bedroom. He is contesting the “rounding up” per unit, rather than per the development as a whole.
The Chairman then returned to the issue of “green space”. He stated there is nothing in the current ordinance requiring green space. This could mean fewer parking spaces result in more residential units on the property. Mr. Obrecht replied that he does not want to take down existing homes along Main Street to make room for more parking. Mr. Behr also expressed concern that if less parking is allowed, then that space would be used for more condominium units. Mayor Tarr made the point that controlling density with asphalt is not planning.
Mr. Anderson conveyed that some jurisdictions have an “open space” requirement that limits the amount of structure on a given parcel.
At this point Chairman Rosenberger closed the public portion of the meeting and opened the discussion to Commission members. He agreed that controlling asphalt is March 25, 2008, Planning Commission Meeting not the way to go, but at this time there are no other options. The Commission did request landscaping, and the ordinances require hard top surfaces, even though green areas seem to be a better option. That said, the island is crowded in the summer, and parking has been an issue in the past. Mr. Lewis has had to turn down business requests because of parking. The town desires to meet everyone’s needs.
Mr. Ward then expressed the desire to speak to Ms. Jennings concerns. He stated that the rounding up of parking spaces based on the 1.2 spaces per bedroom seemed to be the issue--specifically whether it should be done by unit or complex. He continued that if there is no boat ramp, then why do we require large spaces for boat trailers? Trailers are not allowed on the Sunset Bay site. The Chairman then asked Mr. Obrecht if that prohibition was in the Sunset Bay Charter. Mr. Obrecht said that it was; there is no
parking of trailers allowed on the site for longer than 24 hours.
Mr. Ward agreed with the Mayor that the town “should not use parking to control density.” The ordinance should include a required percentage of landscaped area, e.g., 2 parts landscaping for 8 parts parking.
At this point the Chairman recommended that the Commission go through Mr. Anderson’s Memorandum on Zoning Ordinance--Parking, paragraph by paragraph. The salient points of the discussion follow:
6.6.1 Definitions
• The Chairman asked about the reference point for Best Management Practices, (d). Mr. Anderson replied that best management practices need to be approved by engineering and improve storm water runoff. The practices would provide an avenue for innovation.
• Mr. Anderson reviewed the proposed requirement for a Compact Car Parking Space, (e): 8 feet wide x 16 feet deep. He stated the goal is to reduce the amount of asphalt.
• Mr. Anderson discussed the requirement for ingress/egress for an access-way or
parking bay, (f). Mr. Ward stated the Commission must consider the worst case
scenario for turning radius for entrances to state roads. The island has many boats
and moving vans that require a large turning radius. VDOT should establish the
standard. Mr Anderson replied that VDOT provides the town with money to resolve
these problems. Mr. Ward reminded the group that VDOT will not provide funding for
roads that do not meet their standards.
• Regarding Parking Spaces, (i), Mr. Anderson stated he believes the 9 feet x 18 feet requirement for one motor vehicle is sufficient.
6.6.5 Medical and Dental Clinic Lots
Mr. Anderson expressed the opinion that the requirement for “four spaces per examination or treatment room, plus one space for each doctor and employee” was probably not enough. Chairman Rosenberger asked if Mr. Anderson had compared Dr. Wolffe’s parking area to that of the Shore medical facility. Mr. Anderson said he had. He also stated that all employees of the clinic may not work at the same time. Mr. Ward contributed that a floor area ratio might work well in making a parking determination.
The Chairman replied that Dr. Amrien’s practice may not fit that model as he has lots of patients with limited floor space at a given time.
6.6.6 Transient Occupancy Parking Requirements
Mr. Ward stated that, as presented, there is a 30% increase in parking requirements for developments because of the rounding up per unit requirement. He proposed to do away with the rounding up requirement and require 1 parking space per bedroom. Mr. Anderson relayed that he did not want to create more lenient requirements for developers, but he is concerned about large, empty parking lots. Mr. Behr agreed with Mr. Ward’s proposal and wants to incorporate a “green space” requirement. Mr. Ward followed that the code should have a high-end limit on impervious surface.
6.6.8 Marina Parking
Chairman Rosenberger suggested that if a condo restricts trailer parking, then the Commission may want to address parking requirements differently. That said, he reminded the members that there have been concerns in the past about trailers on streets. Where would the trailers go if not allowed in parking lots?
Chairman Rosenberger asked Mr. Anderson if State building codes impact any of the submitted recommendations. Mr. Anderson replied they do not.
Mr. Ward continued that he appreciated the work that went into the document. Because Sunset Bay has a large asphalt parking lot, the rounding up requirement for parking (an additional 30%) will always be the issue. He indicated he does not see the demand for a lot of the required size. Additionally, he would like to see a minimum previous requirement for projects of a certain size.
Chairman Rosenberger added that residential areas have different requirements. The town does not have a lot of parking, so the Commission needs to look for a balance. He then asked the Commission members what they would like to do with the proposal on the table. Mr. Behr responded that he would like more time to discuss the proposal. Mr. Ritter reminded the Commission that if they made the proposal more restrictive, another public meeting would be necessary. The Chairman responded that they would only be making recommendations to the Town Council. At this point Mr. Behr made a motion to allow more time to consider the proposals. Mr. Ward seconded the motion. The Chairman reminded the members that many people may want quick action, so each Commission member should provide Mr. Anderson with their comments to the proposal before the next meeting. All approved the motion, as amended, by the Chairman.
Review of Complimentary Therapy (old business)
Mr. Anderson reminded the members that Mr. Ward recommended adding Complimentary Therapy to the list of approved businesses in the town code. Mr. Anderson provided members with documents describing the various services that would be offered by the petitioner, Ms. Schreibstein.
Chairman Rosenberger asked if acupuncture was on the approved list of town businesses. Mr. Ward countered that it could be added to the list, and Mr. Anderson offered that many different businesses could be added to the list. Mr. Ward continued that he had spoken with a massage therapist, and that Reiki is a common service offered. He continued that Feng Shui is more of a consulting service and that it probably does not need to be included in the town code. Additionally massage would be included in the C-1 and C-2 zoning areas as “professional offices.”
Chairman Rosenberger expressed the desire to provide clear guidance to the zoning administrator. Mr. Ward questioned if it was possible to name every service; he expressed the desire to allow the zoning administrator some discretion. Mr. Behr relayed that crystal therapy is a certified service, and that training is required. Chairman Rosenberger recommended forwarding the proposal to the ordinance
committee.
Moving Billboards
Mr. Anderson began the discussion describing moving billboards as vehicles that are on the road for the purpose of advertising, and not making deliveries. He indicated that they have been a contentious issue in many parts of the country, e.g., Virginia Beach prohibits them. While he had not seen any moving billboards on the island, he asked if the Commission wanted to address the issue.
Ms. Richardson asked how the billboards could be legal if the F&M Bank had to change their rotating sign. Mr. Anderson responded that he did not know what the legal issues were with the sign.
Mr. Ward asked if this was a zoning or traffic issue. Mr. Anderson replied that it was a zoning code issue. Mr. Ward then asked if there was any legislation at the state level that would restrict these billboards. Chairman Rosenberger responded that the Motor Vehicle Code does not address the fact that many buses have been converted to signboards.
Mr. Ward continued that the real issue was not the vehicle, but the flashing sign(s). The Chairman relayed that these signs were not cheap, so using them in Chincoteague may not pay off, as it does in Virginia Beach.
Mr. Muth made the point that the Commission needs to distinguish the type of sign, because the real need is to address the larger signs.
Ms. Cherrix made the point that these signs are louvered. Mr. Muth continued that the problem could be addressed by sign size, and by whose vehicle the sign was on. Mr. Behr asserted that the real issue is highway safety. These signs are likely to cause more accidents. The Chairman noted that another concern is aesthetics; the signs are ugly. Mr. Ward suggested that the Fish and Wildlife Service be consulted. The Refuge does not allow advertising.
Chairman Rosenberger proposed that Mr. Anderson gather additional information and come back to the Commission with a recommendation.
Planning Director’s Update
• Upcoming Community Events
There will be an Earth Day celebration on April 19.
• 100th Anniversary Celebration
The 100th Anniversary Celebration earlier in the month was a great success. There will be a parade
to further commemorate the anniversary on Memorial Day weekend.
• Major/Minor Subdivision Update
Mr. Anderson stated that he continues to work on this proposal to insure that it is a good product.
• Board of Zoning Appeals
There is no BZA meeting this month. However, there is an appeal request before the Board for a
zero foot set-back to accommodate a septic installation, #8 04 01. The Chairman noted that there
must be a “hardship” before approval can be granted. Mr. Ward followed that he could not make a
recommendation without details.
Commission Members Announcements or Comments
Mr. Behr welcomed Mr. Muth to the Commission.
Chairman Rosenberger complimented the Mayor and Committee for the great job they did on the 100th Anniversary Celebration.
Ms. Richardson made a motion to adjourn the meeting. The motion passed and the meeting ended at 8:45.
Notes prepared by Nancy Lane
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